In this conversation with Peter Mark Adams, author of The Game of Saturn, the nature and use of magic among the elites of the Italian Renaissance is discussed in depth. From how they used it to shape their self-image (say, not unlike Scientology today) to current events, magic has played a larger role in history than is often acknowledged. Here we discuss a magic of a very dark kind, the magic of rulers and warriors, and one example of how it was transmitted from generation to generation – even seeking to control death itself.
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